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Starting to try to get my list of items straight so i can drool over it for a few weeks before I actually buy it Very Happy

I want this to last as long as possible. That's kinda my reasoning behind going for the i7 and and ddr3 mobo/ram. But I haven't even thought about any of this stuff in 5 years so call me out if it looks like I don't know what I'm doing, rofl.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=7449809

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 Post Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:22 am
 
 
 
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There is no reason when spending that much money, that you don't get the GTX 280. You could shave off a lot of $ from that total by getting a cheaper harddrive. I personally don't see that necessary at all.

Personal opinion: I'd get a different brand of PSU. Maybe Antec since they're BA and since you have an Antec case why not. Also if you think you might want to SLI (unnecessary) I'd get 1000W. I'm running a GTX 280 on a 580W with insufficient rails by using shit tons of molex adapters.

Personal opinion: Get a BFG card, lol. BFG > EVGA

mobo says, "DDR3 2000 (O.C) / 1866 (O.C) / 1333" for the memory standard. I don't see 1600 and 1866 requires a OC...I don't know enough to tell you anything but it doesn't seem right. I'd ask some questions about that.




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 Post Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:52 am
 
 
 
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Thanks for the reply man. I'll have to check out the gtx280. About the harddrive, I was just thinking it'd be nice to have quicker load times but I could probably get a 150gig drive instead of 300 and save a bit there. Just put games on the 10kprm drive and the rest on another storage drive. As for BFG > EVGA yeah i'd agree. The mobo part was a little confusing to me also. My understanding was that the ram can be oc'd to those speeds....maybe theres a bios setting for it and that's why they state it like that? Not sure.

Keep the comments comin Smile


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 Post Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:26 pm
 
 
 
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I agree with Immotal. I'd definately look at the 280.

The case looks good.


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 Post Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:34 am
 
 
 
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Nearly full 250gb 7200 RPM and I still manage to come in first place when HoN and CnC on max settings, even with an older C2D. Not all the time, but I manage to pull it off sometimes. Not like that really means anything when it comes to load TIME, but really I've never had problems with load times. I'm just saying 10,000 RPM really isnt necessary...IMO stay away from 5400 and stay with 7200 and you'll be good and save coin.

EDIT: I noticed you got the hitachi 1TB. I suggest the WesternDigital Cavair Green( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136236 ) at 1TB.

It's more expensive at the moment(actually thats the retail...not sure where the OEM one is, dont have enough time to search, gotta go to work sorry!), but it KEEPS going on sale in their newsletters and coupon codes, etc.. Like over and over again.

DrFoo and RJ will be happy to tell you all about it.




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 Post Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:17 pm
 
 
 
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Nooo, we'd be happy to tell you about the WD 1TB BLACK. Also, look at a GTX280.

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Stay away from Antec PSUs, I've had more die on me lately than anything else. The included corsair is OK

the caviar Green is a good drive, but you really wanna spring for the Black. The extra warranty is worth it, IMO.
Hitachi drives = FAIL (literally, we had 6 die within a week of each other. replaced with WD Cav greens)

Where's your sound card? Onboard sound = FAIL


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500gb is fine 7200rpm and tb drive as a second drive.



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 Post Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:34 pm
 
 
 
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BLARRGGGHGHH BLACK. Not green FML.



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 Post Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:48 pm
 
 
 
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Hivemind wrote:
Where's your sound card? Onboard sound = FAIL

I beg to differ.

I agree that going Caviar Black is a better choice. Caviar Green may be cheaper but it's a bit slower IIRC and probably won't last you as long. Hatachi is just cheapo.

Maybe you could go RAID0 two 500GB's or something so the drives last longer?

For the PSU, definitely look at this PSU guide to decide if a PSU is trustworthy.

If you're going for long-lasting, why not go AMD? ;P It'd be sure to save you some money too.

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 Post Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:58 pm
 
 
 
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PSU: Corsair is my new pick, partly because they aren't playing this BS marketing game of multiple rails. ONE RAIL is what you really want. There's a bit of history behind this and I'm oversimplifying, but that's the bottom line. Corsair PSU's have a well earned great rep in recent years. You do NOT need a 1000W PSU. 850W is more than plenty with the single rail design even for dual GPU setups.

HD: WD1001FALS as others have said. Hitachi isn't cheapo, but they don't tend to last as long because they run hot. That's part of their IBM heritage (IBM sold off their HD biz to Hitachi some years ago). And in this case, nothing outperforms the WD Black drives until you spend a lot more money. Green is fine for storage drives if you are okay with the shorter warranty, but you do want Black for the system drive at least.

If you really want fast load times, get two drives and use the Intel MATRIX raid on that MB to stripe your system and game partitions, and setup the remainder as mirrored storage for backups and data. That's what I did with foo2 and I'm quite happy with it.

Video: I agree with what others have said, the 275 just isn't as good a value as the 280. I also prefer BFG over EVGA, but frankly I expect you'll be happy with either one.

Memory: I'm not a big fan of OCZ memory for several reasons, but that particular set should be fine in this case. The key to this is the voltage rating. What you really want is 1.6v memory for the X58 chipset, but the 1.65v parts aren't pushing it too hard. And so far it seems like even my favorite conservative brands (Kingston and Crucial) are using 1.65v parts as well, so there's no point in quibbling about it.

My impression so far is that MB (and probably the X58 chipset in general) is not reliable when using more than a single set of memory modules, so you should pretty much just pretend those extra 3 memory slots aren't even there. If you want more memory later, get a new set, don't just add them. I actually recommended the Intel version of this MB for someone else recently for that reason, but at this point the price difference is negligible, so I'd probably go with the Asus anyway. As I recall, the difference was in the $100 range a month or so ago.

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I strongly recommend running a full memory test on ANY new system and memory these days. The average quality of memory just isn't as good as it used to be in relative terms. You are far better off finding out if you have a bum module before you build your box. The same is true of HDs as well. I always run at least a full scan of a new HD, and beyond that I never fully trust them until they've been powered up for 30 days.

I have no real issue with onboard sound anymore. I used to, but times really have changed on that front. The fact is, more and more people are finding that using USB based sound is actually the way to go for gamers. If you want the front panel volume controls and are willing to pay for it, then I think the higher end CL kits might make sense, but I don't really see the point in just a standard sound card anymore. They really aren't any better in terms of quality, they just take up slots and generate heat.


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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:38 am
 
 
 
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Alright so i got the Black drive. As for the video card I havent seen a bfg gtx280 on new egg yet Sad. I'm not getting a sound card for reasons foo stated.

So about the memory voltage, they're working fine with 1.65v?

Bottom line......With the updated Black HD and a soon to be updated GTX280, everything looks good? (Crosses fingers really hard)

Edit: Forgot to ask about the monitor. Good for everything? Rogue? Razz


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Retspan wrote:
So about the memory voltage, they're working fine with 1.65v?

Yes 1.65v is fine. Which is a good thing since you don't really have any choice! Nobody is even making 1.6v parts. The only 1.6v modules I've seen on Newegg are a couple of oddball kits from Corsair, neither of which is right for this system anyway.


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Psst 15% HDD sale on newegg for 72 hours.



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Immotal wrote:
Psst 15% HDD sale on85 newegg for 72 hours.

85$ with free shipping for a 1TB Black... <3


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